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How the Platform Game Will Play Out
Published by kidmercury
10-11-2007 |
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#1
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Tony Stubblebine
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10-12-2007, 11:44 AM
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CrowdVine's Corporate Culture
I don't think you should lump CrowdVine's culture with Ning and KickApps. They both took massive amounts of funding (I think $44M and $22M). That means they can build something massive as long as it's going to be massively profitable. We on the other hand, are 2.1 geeks running a profitable company who are enjoying the hell out of being independent. That means we can do whatever interests us as long as it's not too expensive and we can continue to meet the relatively low bar of paying the rent.
I think a lot about how CrowdVine could be turned into a platform. Feature-wise we've limited ourselves to the basic social networking features. When we've needed more features we've integrated with someone else. Our early revenue came from consulting work where we built more complicated social networks on top of the CrowdVine platform. We're getting ready to launch a CrowdVine for Conferences product that's also based on the same platform. There's a lot of apps that would benefit from having a stronger social network base. I think about my time at Odeo. We had basic social network features but we were also struggling to make our podcast spider run as fast as possible. There was no way to prioritize social network features over our core podcast features. The only way we were going to get a strong social network feature set is if someone else provided it. That battle is getting worse with all the new social networking standards coming out. The core decision that I'm wrestling with is how to present the platform, as open source code or as an API? Our internal successes have used the source code as our platform. Is that too old school? Are people expecting their platforms to be hosted by someone else now? Definitely interested in feedback: tony at crowdvine dot com |
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#2
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kidmercury
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10-13-2007, 08:23 AM
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hi tony,
thanks for the comment. a few points: 1. you're right, i shouldnt lump you in with kickapps and ning. what i was really thinking is that it's a software as services development culture, which i think is different than an open source development culture. 2. with that in mind, i'd definitely vote for you creating an open source platform. i think developers will really love that as it gives them total freedom. as it becomes clear that the platforms need to compete for the development community, i think open source platforms will be a natural result of this competitive dynamic. this will help developers build their own business by creating their own niche platform. more importantly, in my opinion, it will create an opportunity for "remixers" -- people who remix contributions from your development community to create their own platform. i emailed you some thoughts as well. |
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#3
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HymanRoth
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03-31-2009, 09:46 AM
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Good Stuff
Hi, er, Kid,
I assume you're the same kidmercury who posts on Fred Wilson's blog (although I came here from Hacker News) I thought this post was very interesting, and would add the following: The killer web app. platform will, in my view, have the following characteristics: 1) In the words of Tim O'Reilly, it will create more value than it captures. i.e. developers/app owners get more out of the platform than the platform owners (Think eBay) 2) It will be based on open source. This means that developers can share and build upon each others components (whilst always getting paid for their own work) 3) It will be transaction orientated, which means that developers will get paid on a per usage basis. 4) The developer community will have a very large say in how the platform evolves, and could, in theory, buy shares in the platform management company. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is not really fantasy. My company, lmframework.com is working is this direction. |
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#4
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kidmercury
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03-31-2009, 10:03 AM
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Hey Hyman,
Yes, I'm the same Kid Mercury that posts on Fred Wilson's blog. My "normal person" blog is here, I try to avoid my real name on this blog for search engine reasons, because people tend to discriminate against 9/11 truthers. I agree 100% with the four points you listed. If you're riding those trends, I think lmframework.com is very promising and headed in the right direction! Looking forward to seeing you guys grow. |
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